Eagle Creek
10:57:51 Eagle
tradesmen and woman are not held up high enough they built the cities and towns we all live in <3
The Old Gods
10:57:49 Void Malign
Nah. You can make a pretty penny if you make furniture
Full Stride Farm
10:57:48 Buckeye!
As I said, takes all sorts to make the world go round.
But, blue collar does not equal broken down bodies all the time either. Just putting out the other side of seeing things
Gem Queens Estate
10:57:00 Snow❆Gem
@buckeye

Thanks. :D And yes, trades are needed to make the world go around. I've thought of getting into one, but I dunno what. I like the idea of woodworking, but that's kinda fallen out of favor.
Eagle Creek
10:56:53 Eagle
damnnn he's Thriving!
The Old Gods
10:56:37 Void Malign
The amusing thing is that I never said anything negative about trades folk lol
Full Stride Farm
10:56:07 Buckeye!
My step son is a diesel mechanic. Not much cost to his education, worked in field only about 5 yrs, became field manager, no more hard work on his body, current salary is 250k per year.
Pretty good for a blue collar tradesman, no?
The Old Gods
10:55:38 Void Malign
I'd prefer the debt over tearing up my body more than it already is. Too many minor injuries came back to bite me in the ass a few years later.
Eagle Creek
10:55:01 Eagle
buckeye I look up to you with all your horses and achievements.
*Rising Stars TBs*
10:54:55 Star / Sarah
gtg, bye!
Full Stride Farm
10:53:54 Buckeye!
That is awesome Gem.
And you too Eagle.

Need more folks out there doing trades. The good news is, good pay and not so much student debt going into life on their own.
It takes all kinds to make the world go round.

Lots of non college folks are doing very well, and are well educated despite the choice to not go to college.
Gem Queens Estate
10:53:46 Snow❆Gem
@buckeye

Oh wow! That's something I can look up to. *hugs* Gotta work though it, to get what you really want...
Eagle Creek
10:53:34 Eagle
no actually he is a site manager. and does no heavy lifting. XD he's 30 and only did hard labor for 6 years.
Gem Queens Estate
10:52:17 Snow❆Gem
@eagle

To make a ton of month, you either have to use your brains or muscles a lot. ;P Both need a decent amount of knowledge too. :D
The Old Gods
10:51:45 Void Malign
But he'll eventually pay for it in the form of damage to his body. I come from blue collar and I saw the damage that hard physical labor caused
Eagle Creek
10:51:34 Eagle
XD
Full Stride Farm
10:51:32 Buckeye!
When I went into business for myself, I owned nothing more than clothes, my one horse and a dog at the time.
My truck wasnÂ’t even mine, it belonged to my parents.
I leased the barn/land and leased a separate place to live.
Did other side jobs along the way as needed - yes, working for others at times, at night , to pay the bills. Eventually was able to rely only upon my own income.
Was tough.
But made it - and proud of what I did and what I have.
Gem Queens Estate
10:51:12 Snow❆Gem
@eagle

lol ;P
Eagle Creek
10:50:24 Eagle
funny though cause my boyfriend works in construction and makes close to 6k a month too but no schooling .
Gem Queens Estate
10:50:17 Snow❆Gem
@buckeye

Oh yes. My mom is very literate, but never finished college. Long story, life happened. Anyway, I'm over here with a near worthless AA degree and still have struggle with English sometimes.

And that sounds wonderful! My dream is to have a large chunk of land. Farm, ranch, homestead, whatever. Big enough to have my space from neighbors and have animals and a garden. XD
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Advice for proportioning? February 26, 2024 07:06 PM

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So, ive never really drawn horses, ive been trying to learn how, and im struggling a lot with head proportions. For context I mostly wanna draw TB and WB, but i cant pick out any "shapes" oe "portions" in the skull to build off of and find the placement of things like the eyes and nostrils, cheeks, etc. Looked up a few tutorials and almost all of them were the ones where they just copy lines without trying to understand the form- in other words pretty useless. Any help from others who draw horses? comparisons could be useful as i can so far draw everything except horses
Advice for proportioning? February 26, 2024 09:51 PM


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I think I can help! I'll edit in just a sec, so I can show you what I mean<3 (it's a long read, so be prepared xD)
Horse full body side profile:
I'm going to show you what I mean with a ref.(All photos by LuDa Stock.DA, I forgot to put it on the pics >>;)
First, take a look at the point of the should and the hip. Draw a circle/dot/mark on these spots.
Do the same for the joints of the knees and hocks.
Now, this takes a tad bit of math/geometry/whatever. You're going to draw a line through each of these points to create an Equilateral Triangle. We want all sides to be relatively the same length, with the line through the leg joints being level. *Note, some breeds like TBs with be a little longer, whereas Arabs will be shorter.
Now that we know where the shoulder, hip, knees, and hocks lie, we can divide the body into circles(get used to this lol)
One for the shoulder/chest, one for the barrel, and one for the hindquarters.
Next, we can draw the neck bones, it's kind of a long, thin triangle. The main line will be the chonky neck muscle, with the topline and throat sort of secondary-lines.
New that we have a neck dorito, let's do the leg muscles, which tend to be ovals and rectangles. I didn't screenshot the process too much, I hope you can kinda see how I did it. I just start at the shoulder/hip and work my way down.
This should show the balance of the horse well enough, now you just apply this to whst you know and put it into your own art style<3
Next Up: The Head(Side Profile):
First, try to look at the head as several shapes instead of one tricky thing. We'll start with the overall shape and build up from there. It tends to be rectangular at its simplest.
Next, we'll add the cheekbone, which is a circle with a flat edge at the top, near the eye.
Next, the muzzle. It's pretty similar to the cheekbone in how we draw it. Pretty circular, then another halfcircle for the chin. Now, the horse I chose has a 'droop snoot', in that the muzzle droops(Which is fairly common in WBs, but not so much in QHs, however many QH have proportianally smaller heads) so it's going to be a bit different.
Now, the jaw muscle/space between cheekbone and mouth. Pretty simple, just an oval.
Now, this part takes a little creativity and knowledge of equine faces. If I could beam the knowledge into you telepathially, I would lol. We're going to refine the muzzle, forehead, and snoot a bit. As you can see below, I changed the snoot a bit to not be so droopy, but It's not terribly important depending on the breed you're replicating.
Now for the eye. It's usually right in the middle of the cheekbone, and up a bit. I've seen people who draw the eyes too close to the ears, or too far down the cheek, so this is pretty important.
That's pretty much how I do it, if you have any questions I'd be more than happy to answer as best I can<3
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I did forget one part, but Show Time added it well. It's just connecting the pieces of the horse together, mainly at the joints.(Shoulder, wither, hip, hock, stifle, etc)

Edited at February 26, 2024 10:41 PM by KPH Equestrian
Advice for proportioning? February 26, 2024 10:00 PM


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This is the tutorial that helped me as a kid :]
Advice for proportioning? February 26, 2024 10:44 PM


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Edited my post above<3

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