Hummingbird Meadows
03:39:02 Hummer
Fair enough. My views on ethical breeding differ from most breeders, but thatÂ’s ok!
Vecchia Modo
03:38:17 Vecc - TBs
I'm very active in shutting down puppy mills and the like, so I'm bias when it comes to creating mixed breed dogs.
Too many horror stories.
Hummingbird Meadows
03:35:02 Hummer
While I think there are many doodle breeders out there I sincerely think the one we went with was ethical in the sense I believe it to be: loving home, didnÂ’t do it for money, honest, etc. The Mom only had two litters and then was spayed.
Hummingbird Meadows
03:32:49 Hummer
She was a first generation doodle.
Vecchia Modo
03:32:41 Vecc - TBs
I'm guessing, the golden.
Vecchia Modo
03:31:57 Vecc - TBs
What breed was the dam ?
Hummingbird Meadows
03:31:22 Hummer
@Vecc, I think she was honest when she said that. When we met the litter he was the most calm at the time so it made sense why she would say that. Her dog was definitely a therapy dog too. She would take her to schools and help kids who struggled with reading.
Vecchia Modo
03:31:02 Vecc - TBs
We've turned people away if we thought they wouldn't be a good 'fit' for our babies.
Vecchia Modo
03:29:41 Vecc - TBs
Some breeders, like politicians, will tell you what they think you want to hear, just to make a sale.
Hummingbird Meadows
03:28:44 Hummer
@Vecc, his Mom was a therapy dog so I was hoping he would have the same temperament and I could do therapy work with him too. But, he gets too excited. Out of litter of 10 though his breeder said she thought he was the most likely to become a therapy dog though.
Vecchia Modo
03:27:07 Vecc - TBs
It would be great if they got the best of both breeds, unfortunately, that was seldom the case.
Hummingbird Meadows
03:25:58 Hummer
He is super friendly and smart so I love that. Just too high energy.
Vecchia Modo
03:25:18 Vecc - TBs
Hummer - yea, you aren't alone there. Many people were disappointed when they bought 'doodles'.
Hummingbird Meadows
03:24:19 Hummer
@Vecc, yup. Not what I hoped for personality wise, but we make it work! Lessons learned on goldendoodles I guess.
Hummingbird Meadows
03:23:49 Hummer
Mostly because my cat is good at tolerating anything such as my dog sticking his nose in his face, barking, etc.
Vecchia Modo
03:23:22 Vecc - TBs
goldendoodle ?
Hummingbird Meadows
03:22:02 Hummer
Here is my dog and cat cuddling. They get along great which is awesome!
-Click-
Hummingbird Meadows
03:21:25 Hummer
My dog LOVES being outside. Sometimes he wakes me up to use the bathroom and then just sits in the grass when I want to go back to bed. XD
Salem
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is there a limit to how many clubs you can be in?
Dark Dream Appaloosa
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I just noticed my female would never stay outside by herself until we got the other dog.

They're mostly outside during the day. Come in at night.
They aren't allowed on the furniture
But have their own $50 dog beds 🤣🤣
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Body Prep Tips <3 January 30, 2024 07:44 PM


SilverFern Stables
 
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Ever since I started doing art I have really struggled with body prep... in particular the smudging step.

I find that I always seem to over smudge and loose detail and make things all muddy, then I try again after turning my brush settings down a tad and there is barely any effect. I usually manage to make something that looks okay using layers and opacity etc, but it still feels like the effect isn't uniform and there is almost always texture left over that really annoys me.

I want a more realistic look to my pieces so I want to preserve a fair bit of detail and I'm not aiming to repaint the whole horse (I'm not good enough to paint all the detail back in lol). But I don't feel I can leave the stock untouched either... I want em smoothish!

Does anyone have any tips that might help me strike a better balance? I use GIMP 2.10 so it would be extra awesome to hear from fellow gimp users but most other software has tools that translate over.

Here are some recent examples, not sure how obvious it is in the final product but it still frustrates me lol (here is my gallery for more examples)

Thank you in advance <33

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Edited at January 30, 2024 08:11 PM by SilverFern Stables
Body Prep Tips <3 January 30, 2024 08:08 PM


Florestä
 
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No advice here but..
Your body prep was what I tried to replicate when doing my recent pieces :)
Whatever you're doing, I think it looks great 🤷‍♀️

Edited at January 30, 2024 08:08 PM by Florestä
Body Prep Tips <3 January 30, 2024 08:13 PM


SilverFern Stables
 
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Oh my that's such a compliment thank you!!!
Maybe it's my perfectionism getting to me.... I just struggle to grapple with small details not being exactly how I want them... maybe what I need is some perspective xD

Florestä said:
No advice here but..
Your body prep was what I tried to replicate when doing my recent pieces :)
Whatever you're doing, I think it looks great 🤷‍♀️


Body Prep Tips <3 January 30, 2024 08:14 PM


Tranquility
 
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So, to me, your smudging looks pretty good honestly. Personally, I would lower the opacity on the clipping layer more. Don't smudge the face (especially if you have good stock) or if you still feel like you need to, do it on another layer and lower opacity even more than the body. Sometimes I do this with legs too. Also avoid directly smudging shadow lines or really bright lines too. Unless your planning to repaint the lighting of the horse. You've got a good start, something that helps too, is going back in a repainting highlights and sometimes lowlights in shadows and things of muscle. I didn't think it was worth my time either, but it truly does make it pop. I think,... hmm. I can't quite remember the artists name, but she does like, those quick art manip videos on YouTube and one of them really helped explain how to do them well and in depth with a good example to follow. if anyone knows who im talking about please help lol. She was an amazing artists on HEE a bit ago too!
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Anyways, with smudging, it takes very little to overdo it. I personally don't think it's very over done at all with your art. Smudge in circles. And carefully. Take your time. Use lower brush levels and opacitys. It will take longer but it will look just more professional. <3
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Use better horse stock. In general, they will be less grainy with will let you preserve more detail without repainting it all back in.
Body Prep Tips <3 January 30, 2024 08:21 PM


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Oooh it was Wings. Wings of Glory. But I don't know what her youtube was called. Anyways, she had some GREAT videos that I highly recommend watching!
Body Prep Tips <3 January 30, 2024 08:31 PM


KPH Equestrian
 
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Tranquility said:
Oooh it was Wings. Wings of Glory. But I don't know what her youtube was called. Anyways, she had some GREAT videos that I highly recommend watching!


I did a bit of digging(for like 2 minutes lol) and found Wings' TY Channel, it's called Jericho and winter :) (Found it here :3

Edited at January 30, 2024 08:32 PM by KPH Equestrian
Body Prep Tips <3 January 30, 2024 09:02 PM


SilverFern Stables
 
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Tranquility said:
So, to me, your smudging looks pretty good honestly. Personally, I would lower the opacity on the clipping layer more. Don't smudge the face (especially if you have good stock) or if you still feel like you need to, do it on another layer and lower opacity even more than the body. Sometimes I do this with legs too. Also avoid directly smudging shadow lines or really bright lines too. Unless your planning to repaint the lighting of the horse. You've got a good start, something that helps too, is going back in a repainting highlights and sometimes lowlights in shadows and things of muscle. I didn't think it was worth my time either, but it truly does make it pop. I think,... hmm. I can't quite remember the artists name, but she does like, those quick art manip videos on YouTube and one of them really helped explain how to do them well and in depth with a good example to follow. if anyone knows who im talking about please help lol. She was an amazing artists on HEE a bit ago too!
.
Anyways, with smudging, it takes very little to overdo it. I personally don't think it's very over done at all with your art. Smudge in circles. And carefully. Take your time. Use lower brush levels and opacitys. It will take longer but it will look just more professional. <3
.
Use better horse stock. In general, they will be less grainy with will let you preserve more detail without repainting it all back in.


That is super helpful thank you so so much!
I definitely need to be pickier on the stock front... I don't really have the option of using paid stock so I'll have to up my standards while trawling through DA lol

KPH Equestrian said:

Tranquility said:
Oooh it was Wings. Wings of Glory. But I don't know what her youtube was called. Anyways, she had some GREAT videos that I highly recommend watching!


I did a bit of digging(for like 2 minutes lol) and found Wings' TY Channel, it's called Jericho and winter :) (Found it here :3


You're amazing thank you!!! <3
I've never seen them before so a great resource to have

Edited at January 30, 2024 09:02 PM by SilverFern Stables
Body Prep Tips <3 January 30, 2024 09:48 PM


Lucky Ranch
 
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omg your art is gorgeousss ♥️♥️♥️
you can redefine details by making a new clipping layer, take a light or white color and define the highlights parts
set the layer mode to soft light or overlay (you can play around and see which one looks best), then smudge it a bit, and then lower opacity
and do the same for shadows, but with dark color or black
and sometimes multiply layer mode works best for this
heres basically the same thing but with pics lol and from rhiaan, super talented artist!
golden hall stables also has a super cool tutorial in the forums somewhere give me a sec ill find it
edit: found it!
they also have some other great tutorials in this same thread!

Edited at January 30, 2024 09:48 PM by Lucky Ranch
Body Prep Tips <3 January 30, 2024 09:57 PM


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This is willows how to do horses
Body Prep Tips <3 January 30, 2024 10:03 PM


KPH Equestrian
 
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SilverFern Stables said:

Tranquility said:
So, to me, your smudging looks pretty good honestly. Personally, I would lower the opacity on the clipping layer more. Don't smudge the face (especially if you have good stock) or if you still feel like you need to, do it on another layer and lower opacity even more than the body. Sometimes I do this with legs too. Also avoid directly smudging shadow lines or really bright lines too. Unless your planning to repaint the lighting of the horse. You've got a good start, something that helps too, is going back in a repainting highlights and sometimes lowlights in shadows and things of muscle. I didn't think it was worth my time either, but it truly does make it pop. I think,... hmm. I can't quite remember the artists name, but she does like, those quick art manip videos on YouTube and one of them really helped explain how to do them well and in depth with a good example to follow. if anyone knows who im talking about please help lol. She was an amazing artists on HEE a bit ago too!
.
Anyways, with smudging, it takes very little to overdo it. I personally don't think it's very over done at all with your art. Smudge in circles. And carefully. Take your time. Use lower brush levels and opacitys. It will take longer but it will look just more professional. <3
.
Use better horse stock. In general, they will be less grainy with will let you preserve more detail without repainting it all back in.


That is super helpful thank you so so much!
I definitely need to be pickier on the stock front... I don't really have the option of using paid stock so I'll have to up my standards while trawling through DA lol

KPH Equestrian said:

Tranquility said:
Oooh it was Wings. Wings of Glory. But I don't know what her youtube was called. Anyways, she had some GREAT videos that I highly recommend watching!


I did a bit of digging(for like 2 minutes lol) and found Wings' TY Channel, it's called Jericho and winter :) (Found it here :3


You're amazing thank you!!! <3
I've never seen them before so a great resource to have


Of course! And btw DancesWithPonies and Venomxbaby are(IMO) some of the best horse stock providers on DA. Venomxbaby has hers organized by coat color, and DancesWithPonies sorts theirs by breed :3

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