 06:08:27 Honey| I have too many embryos, don't know how I'll ever use all of them xD |
06:05:39 Sun/Sunny| I still have a few from Enchantress; should really use them x.x |
06:04:26 bella| I just pulled Clio's last embryo too ): so sad when good mares retire |
06:01:31 Sun/Sunny| I don't know Dx Her filly has potential though! I'm kinda in a conundrum cause I think I ordered her art but I don't remember who I ordered it from. Ah, art hoarder problems xD |
06:00:44 Honey| How is she 17 already Sun? :o |
06:00:24 Grace, Goose, Paris Well I got okay SD Geldings out of it
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05:58:54 Sun/Sunny| -HEE Click- Just pulled this girl's last embryo- here's hoping one of them will give me a new strong X boy or gal. |
05:57:08 Grace, Goose, Paris 05:54:41 Granny C| mid july I believe is the next one |
05:54:05 Grace, Goose, Paris| Ahhh, when is the capture party |
05:53:23 Dae| Grace honestly holding out until capture days is the best way, or catch mares and breed up >.< it may just be magic though |
05:52:29 Granny C I used to capture a lot, with those same hopes. Then one day, I sat down and figured out how much I spent, trying to get lucky. Turns out, I could have bought 2 of them, for what I spent on capturing. LOL
Now, I just buy them. |
05:51:04 Grace, Goose, Paris -HEE Click-
The best I got :/ |
05:50:26 Grace, Goose, Paris 05:49:55 Dae| Grace fingers crossed! Ive been very lucky with my knn boys |
05:48:22 Grace, Goose, Paris Granny
Yeah I'm trying to capture a w+ knn colt |
05:47:50 Grace, Goose, Paris Dae
Thank you, I'll brave test him in a minute |
05:47:21 Granny C| the pretty ones always seem to get the shit ratings. |
05:46:24 Dae| Grace awww!! Hes such a cutie ^-^ |
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I'm not to good with genetics and just tested her. If someone can help I'd like to know if there's anything special or noteworthy about her genetics :) Thank you in advance! |
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Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :) I hope this helps! |
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The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :) I hope this helps!
Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :) |
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Eastwood Acres said:
The Joker said:
Nice week 7! Her gene test doesn't have any hidden genes in it (like pearl or silver) but she does carry one copy of the champagne gene (Ch) which means she has a chance of passing it down to a foal, and you can possibly get a foal with double copies (ChCh) if you breed her to another champagne horse, which would make that gene a guaranteed one to pass down from that foal :) I hope this helps!
Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot :)
Of course! Happy to help :) I believe the amber part of her colour is caused by her base colour of Ee which would usually be bay/brown, I may be incorrect though and it may be linked to the agouti gene instead |
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Champagnes have weird color names. Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal. The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut. The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene. So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream). Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti). Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it. |
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Clear Springs said:
Champagnes have weird color names. Gold Champagne = Chestnut (ee ??) + Champagne gene Amber Champagne = Bay (E?A?) + Champagne gene Sable Champagne = Brown (E?At?) + Champagne gene Classic Champagne = Black (E?aa)+ Champagne gene So the "Amber" part of her color just means she would be a plain bay horse without the Champagne gene. She's E(black-based) A(agouti) plus Ch(Champagne). She also has that At gene in there which doesn't show on her, but means she could have a brown foal. The Extension (E/e) gene just determines if a horse is black-based or red-based. If the horse has at least one E gene it's black-based, if ee it's red-based. All horse colors are one or the other with modifiers added for colors besides Black and Chestnut. The Agouti (A/At/a) gene here is considered only active in black-based horses, so a horse that is red-based (ee) won't express it no matter what alleles are present. What it does is restrict where on the horse black pigment is fully expressed. It limits actual black to the "points" of the horse and leaves the body lacking enough pigment to be truly black, so it's just sort of a faded black color (which appears red, but isn't). So a horse with E?A? is the full-on Agouti color we call "bay" with black points and reddish body. A horse with E?At? has more expression of pigment on the body, has brown "highlights" on the nose, flank, etc and black points and is called "brown". A horse with E?aa is black all over with no restriction from the Agouti gene. So now we have what E/e and A/At/a are and what they mean to horse colors, you can take all those and apply the modifiers like the white-spotting patterns (Tobiano, Sabino, Frame), Roan, Dun, etc and add in that Champagne has those weird names and so does Cream(CcrC) (Chestnut + Cream = Palomino, Bay + Cream = Buckskin, Brown + Cream = Brown Buckskin, Black + Cream = Smoky Black) and Double Cream(CcrCcr) (Chestnut = Cremello, Bay/Brown = Perlino, Black = Smoky Cream). Most of the genes here are dominantly-expressed (the capital letter means the horse has that trait), but Pearl is recessive (a horse must have prlprl to be Pearl) and Agouti has 3 alleles, where A overrides the other two, At only overrides a and aa means "non-Agouti). Hope that helps some people who are still a bit confused. Variable color names don't help. It's like the gene that's called merle in every other dog breed is called dapple in dachshunds. You just have to learn the color names and roll with it.
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